Classics to be banned from motorways?

Near where I live is a crashed vehicles recovery place. You should see the state of the mangled vehicles they bring in everyday mostly from the M25 and other motorways and A roads in West Kent.

I never drive on motorways and never will.

 

you're a cheerful chap today

 

You really need to research this stuff further. Sure there is lots of evidence to suggest that driverless and electric cars are the future but that is generated from lobiests looking to earn HUGE sums of free cash for research and development and produce not much in return. There are no possitives to electric vehicles . They are not greener as some seen to think, they are actually gross poluters that hide thefact vast swathes of 3rd world countries are raped for there reserves of Lithium. Lithium is a rare mineral and will not last as long as even the current oil reserves

If your an tree hugging advocate of CO2 polluting the planet then your average electric car produces 3 tons of CO2 compared with your average car which is closer to 2 tons of CO2.. Add in your classic to the equation and consider you may use it only 4 weeks in the year and you produce very little by way of pollutants .. Sure its dirty but were working on statistical figures..

Early deaths due to pollution.. Thats early by 40 minutes apparently .. If you are unfortunate to have poor lung capacity and a propensity toward asthma then you might have a problem if you reside in a heavy traffic area .. if you are healthy, chances are you wont be affected.. There are more people DIE as a direct result of driving a car or being a pedestrian than actually die of the so called pollution created by the automobile.. That only tells us that those relatively few people that die in cars as a result of an accident ( compared to the total number of drivers on the road at any given time ) doesnt warrant autonomous vehicles being forced into service .. It means that PEOPLE should undergo stricter driving tests and retestig every 5 years or so.. with restrictions on use depending upon age and driving history.. They can do that now with young drivers..

Autonomous vehicles are a non starter in 30 years.. There are a billion cars on the road across the world, manufacturers really on a world wide sales income to survive .. It would take more than 50 years to get rid of the current road going vehicles considering that they will be made for the next 30 years at least..

Now how thick do these folk think we are .. Sure lots ofeople have been dumbed down with technology, some folk find it hard to string a sentence together but can manage 1000 invisible friends of face book and that keeps them happy. If you give a monkey some nuts it will do as you say.. People are controlled by technology and unfortunately giving up to more and more of it every day.. Think about it , these alexas and Marmite that switch on your lights and radio,, answer yur dumb ass questions and basically remove your need to do things for yourself. People are being drip fed there own demise, to give in to such a level of technology enslaves you to it.. Just look at folk and there addiction to mobile phones...

They then say that autonomous cars wont be able to communicate with our old heaps.. wait a mo.. fit a sensor to the old heap and it will easy send out the required signal .. Sure we still have to drive it but so long as the signal is there the other autonamous stuff will respond ..OH and if they need a signal to respond to, where does that leave US HUMANS .. will we need to be chipped ? Sure looks like it to me ..

Thankfully I will most likely be dead in 30 years .

The other sure thing is that if people take this future transport idea on board then right now your classic car value is in decline ..

 

Quick one on the climate ...

So Global warming was proved to be ***** so it was changed to climate change.. Climate change is part of what the planet does, it has done it since it was a ball of gas and will continue to do it well after we have all met our maker .. The climate isnt controlled by US and to think we can make a change is the greatest fraud of all time.. There is money to be made by promoting fear. Sure we make a complete mess of the actual planet, but we have little effect on the atmosphere.. we have to realise that we are pretty insignificant in the big scheme of things. While we try to save the Ozone we rape the planet for its natural resources so we can produce more crap that makes our lives more convenient.. some of us need to replace our cars every 3 years or so.. while some of us have had the same car for near on 20 years... I ask, what is cleaner and more responsible ?

Our climate is more complicated than polution generated by the motor car, yet the focus is on the motor car, Its focused on the motor car because its something that we as huan beings can afford to buy and something that most of us are likely to own and currenty there is little or no control on how we use it . The automobile is our last uncontrolled means of freedom and soon your gonna be required to give that up.. and you will do so willingly because your being slowly brainwashed.

Think about it .

 

Google away... thats part of the problem.. or ask alexa.. who will tell posibly give you the responce you just provided to me simply because thats the general consensus..

Tesla are on there arse .. they are the just the latest TUCKER..

Tesla are pretty much "owned" by Panasonic and simply a vehicle to provide testing for battery technology..

And yep your being tracked and have been for years .. 15 years ago I could take your BMW plug it in and receive a full print out of your driving complete with map ref speed revs gear and time .. and that was pre sat nav..

 

Global temperatures are increasing, "global warming" provably exists. This "global warming" is leading to significant "climate change", also provably. The only argument left, for mad sceptics, is whether global warming and the resulting climate change is caused by humans burning fossil fuels (the consensus of scientists is, yes, with a high degree of certainty we can say that the current global warming is significantly caused by humans).

Yes, global climate is always changing. The problem is that currently it's changing a lot faster than it ever has done before: https://xkcd.com/1732/

Ask a keen gardener, or a bird watcher, or a sea defence manager, if you don't believe scientists. They will tell you about the changes in nature due to the warming planet.

 

Global temps are increasing CURRENTLY and in several years time as part of the natural cycle they will decrease again.. then increase and decrease as they have been doing for hundreds of thousands of years .. with plenty actual evidence to show the changes..

Sun activity, ocean temperatures, and the associated weather cycles are the actual causes of climate change.. Pollution in the town centre of Croydon contributes very little to climate change..

If you run an electric car please explain why that is a green option? the structure and materials are the same for both so the manufacturing of the basic shell and interior are the same .. The electric motor uses copper and rare earth minerals mined from areas of the world that were previously untouched in some cases .. Vast salt flats are ripped apart for the minerals required to make batteries. Not to mention the chemicals and processes to recover the mineral and produce said batteries.. Then skip the build process and move onto the charging.. the grid struggles as it is.. so we build a nuclear power station, got to admit its non fossil fuel, but lets forget we cant get rid of the waste other than dumpit in the sea.. in a concrete filled steel barrel.. or stockpile it ... Or we could put up solar panels and store the energy we soak up in err big batteries, Oh and take up the ground cover that was previously occupied by green stuff that actually purified the air and balanced Marmite out .. OF set up a big factory in Holland to build wind mills, using steel, plasic etc etc, then rip apart a site on a windy hillside pour in tons of concrete using diesel powered equipment to do so, having shipped the parts from the continent and dive it 500 miles to its site .. one piece at a time with a full convoy of escort vehicles.. Erect it on site and keep it switched off a lot of the time because its TOO WINDY and all this for 10 years of use. forgetting 10 years of maintenance.. and all for what? a small saving on the so called pollutants thats causing climate change ... ( forgetting the manufactures of the windmills just made massive profits.. for its shareholders) ( check out who those shareholders are and who is behind the companies)

Its inevitable the human race will die out .. we cant sustain population growth and that's the bottom line .. were saving the planet to make way for more gross polluters .. US .. anybody can see what the problem is and how it cant be stopped.. If you have kids, feel sorry for them..

It kinda sounds like im a greeny, and an enemy of progress, Im neither, Im just Joe punter that hasnt been seduced by the hype, Ive looked at both sides and without a bias I have found that the ballance falls on the side of nature and our input is futile as far as actual change .. However I also see us as part of the problem.. If you keep stuffing marbles into a paper bag something will eventually give with disastrous results People in this case are the marbles, population control is the only long term solution to saving the planet if thats your concern .. its simple really.. I really and honestly dont care, but I really despise the restrictions being forced on people in the name of saving the planet .. The greatest fraud of all time ..

If we were really really wanting to satisfy the need for clean energy then there is always Hydrogen.. we still need electricity though.. so you get nothing for free or without pollutants, its all back to demand ..

 

I don't like electric cars they creep up behind you ... silently ... then run you down

 

I think thats what Im trying to say... its not heavy, its fact.. its already to little to late and in 30 years time with the population getting on for twice what it is now, whats the chances of survival? Education, not through fear but thought is a start.. there is a lot more pollution generated through irresponsible use of "stuff" unconnected to the motor car.. but its somehow been the focus.. The only reason for that focus isnt saving the planet, its making money... Corporations have no interest in saving the planet, they have every interest in making money.. They have no interest in population decline but every interest in sustained population growth.. and the income that generates .. Kinda narrow minded, counter productive and futile in the bigger scheme of things.. But thats the corporate planet for you ..

 

I've just sailed back from Amsterdam, if I had a pound for everyone we passed both in the Netherlands and off shore I'd be a rich man still to be persuaded of their benefit. and yes they are ugly.

 

And challenging especially at night, although the navigational aspects are now much easier due to electronic aids.

 

I agree I often potter up the M6 to the lakes, no harm done in my T2.