Type 4 2 litre CJ Engine Rebuild

Discussion in 'Restorations' started by Norris, Sep 8, 2018.

  1. vinnyboy

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  2. vinnyboy

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    Sadly looks like photo bucket have robbed images again
     
  3. Expecting Tapatalk to do the same one day!

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  4. Norris

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    Just a rough measure for now, looks like 2.4mm need to come off the bolt heads, leaving about 3mm.

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    Having cleaned up the oil pump I'll lay the parts out in a case half and see if I can afford to leave a little more meat on the bolt heads
     
  5. 77 Westy

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    Leave the washers off and use Loctite on the bolts. The machined bolts I have are now on the third engine – I think I’ll stop at 2.3l.
     
  6. Webcam supply a schnoor type washer but much lower profile bolt. Once the recess was machined off it left us a nice bit of clearance [​IMG]

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  7. Norris

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    The washers are 0.87mm thick, so that would give a bit more on the bolt heads. I was going to try to leave them on but I suppose loctite is a reasonable alternative

    High or medium strength Loctite?
     
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  8. Norris

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    With those low profile bolts it's actually not that far off. By the time the oil pump gasket is on there should just about be enough clearance. If I could find my feeler gauges I could measure it!

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    It's actually catching on the bottom stud of the pump and just about brushing the ones at the top that are shown in the photo

    So if I take 1mm off the heads there should be plenty of clearance

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  9. We left a good gap.. just in case..
    Edit.. just had a look at my thread to remind me what to order for home made solid rocker spacers.. gap between cam and oil pump bolts was 0.3mm on the fealer gauge!..
    [​IMG]

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  10. I would dump the washers. Use medium strength (blue) loctite on the bolts. :thumbsup:
     
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  11. 77 Westy

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    High strength if you will never remove the bolts again or medium strength if you think you might fit a better cam in the future. :)
     
  12. Norris

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    Thanks. I've ordered medium strength

    My father in law has a lathe so will turn down the bolt heads for me. I asked him to leave about 4mm on the heads, taking off about 1.4mm. As long as I can get a socket on them to nip them up, they won't go anywhere with the loctite, and I would as soon have too much clearance than not enough
     
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  13. i went with countersunk bolts on mine, no clearance issues. I believe Laurie Petit does his this way
     

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  14. Norris

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    With the bolt heads turned down to 4mm I now have 1.5mm clearance (as measured with a drill bit), and that's without the oil pump gasket

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    The photo is of the bottom stud which was the most prominent

    So now out with the loctite...

    and torqued to 18ft-lb

    Oh, and as I think Deefer mentioned in his rebuild thread, with the marked tooth uppermost on the cam gear, the rear cam lobe points downwards. That makes it easy to check
     
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  15. Norris

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    Now that I've got myself some Graphogen assembly compound I stripped down the big end bearings again, having previously just used engine oil. I was pleasantly surprised at how much was still clinging to the bearings, but have now applied the compound. I've also started refitting the case studs and managed to get 4 in before being interrupted by a visit from the in-laws. Never mind, it's progress, and I shouldn't be that far from being able get the case halves back together
     
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  16. 77 Westy

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    That’s right but the bolts are not equally spaced, if they all fit it must be correct.
     
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  17. Norris

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    I finally bit the bullet and got the case halves back together.

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    I checked that the cam lateral float was ok - it moves but I can't get a 0.05mm feeler gauge in the thrust faces, so it's within Bentley tolerance. The lightest smear of Curil T and the case halves went back together, with gentle persuasion with a rubber mallet and frequently checking the crank rotated nicely.

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    Main nuts, bolts and washers sealed with Curil T and torqued up. I even had no parts left over, and no studs without washers and nuts. I hope it works so smoothly with the rest of the dismantling bags
     
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  18. Plenty of that nice red bram in line in the cam lobes I hope?

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  19. Norris

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    Plenty of Graphogen assembly paste on the cam lobes, if that's what you mean
     

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