New Clutch

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by BarryDean, May 28, 2023.

  1. I have T2 1973 with an original 1300cc AB engine upgraded to 1600cc.
    Orderd a new clutch kit which came 200mm but after removing existing its a 180mm.
    Can you fit a larger flywheel or will the 180mm be OK.
    I have already installed the clutch bearing (photo) is the 180mm bearing a different size?

    Been waiting all week to drop this in and its all gone Pete Tong. ??
     

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  2. Id fit the larger flywheel rather than go for a smaller clutch
     
  3. Just been reading up and looks like that's the answer so they are same diameter it's just the centre hole that's different?
     
  4. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Classic mismatch, you'll learn to look before you order, these things being 50 years old have the potential for anything. Just look at yourself fitting a 1300 Beetle engine that's actually a 1600. You know that one because you did it yourself, but anything you didn't do has potential. ;)
     
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  5. Yeah, lessons learnt, I inherited the engine with the Bus and took it as a converted 1600cc in good faith, seen it running but never driven to date, so no way of checking up grade without splitting. Fitted a new 34.3 carb 44 & manifold and thought may as well do the clutch and here we are......
     

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  6. Mine was the same a bug engine put in a bus so had the smaller flywheel
    It now has the larger flywheel and clutch.
     
  7. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    First clutch I ever ordered similar happened. I found mine was 210 or 215 IIRC after ordering 200. :rolleyes:
    Onwards and upwards! :thumbsup:
     
  8. It's just had my plan set out for the weekend, refurbished box went in like a treat so was waiting for a problem o_O. My worry now its that's its not been converted, can you tell with a pressure test?
     
  9. Is your gearbox a three rib?
    If not and your bus was originally a type four engine
    You will need to swap out the gearbox input shaft for a shorter one.
     
  10. Yes think had a type four due to the bits left over, I connected the gear up too the box yesterday an seemed OK.
     
  11. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I doubt that would be conclusive.
    And the 1300 heads were probably re-used so a part number would not help unless they were changed at the same time to 1600 heads.
     
  12. Think I am committed now to continue and need to install a 200mm flywheel and drop it in.
     
  13. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Not the stick end, Para is alerting you that the gearbox input shaft on your box may be the wrong length for your current engine. The pilot bearing on a type-4 is in the end of the crank and you can see where it is on your type-1. They require different length input shafts. So, it's all about the refurbished box really. If you know it's for a type-1 engine all is good.
     
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  14. Do you have a pic of input shaft?

    Fitting a new connector currently (see photo)
     

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  15. So the shaft coming out the box is wrong? Is for a type 4.
     

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  16. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Who knows? We're just alerting you to the possibility so you can check it out. Google is your friend. I'm not convinced the photo below is the whole story, but at least you are aware now and can check that what you have will mate up correctly. The difference is about 10mm. It's not a deal breaker BTW. I shouldn't have I know, but 25 years ago I remember grinding 10mm off the end of one for my 1700 type-4 - rock hard. On the other hand if you find yours isn't long enough (ooer missus) you'll need a longer one. Not hard to change, but oil out and... box out too.
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  17. Yes, thanks for heads up, just had confirmation from the guy who refurbished my box the shaft is for a Type 1:)
    Due to doubts with engine capacity this could have pushed me over the edge and gone on a Type 4 hunt but let's carry on with fingers crossed.

    Looked under rocker 113.101.375 11 vw no.
     

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  18. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    The "11" part of that should be the all important letter. Should be an A because as far as I can see that is the only 113.101.375 made. It's a 1600 dual port head, just what you wanted to find, it wouldn't fit a 1300. 1300 would be 373.B
     
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  19. Yes that's great news looks like the swapped the heads
     
  20. Just checked other side and that is 113.101.375 22 - so 11 /22 instead of A / B ? but as you say all the 375 is predominate part that dictates size.
     

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