AAAAAAgh! My Engine Seized :(

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by Joe Taylor, Nov 10, 2022.

  1. Does anybody happen to have a 1600 engine for a 74 t2 bay?
    Mine went clonk and smoke came out, now it doesn't go round :(

    Any recommendations are most welcome
     
  2. Adrian1975

    Adrian1975 Supporter

    It might not be as bad as you think, unless you can see a massive hole in it

    Good luck
     
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  3. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Budget?
     
  4. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Check it out first there are other reasons an engine won’t turn, unless you already have in which case I’ll shut up and go away!
     
  5. 77 Westy

    77 Westy Supporter

    What has seized, the crankshaft, a piston or sumat else? If this is the engine that you said was using a litre of oil every few weeks, did it just run out of oil?
     
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  6. oil light came on this morning, I stopped at the garage and it was bone dry. So I put a litre in then five miles later - clonk! the crankshaft won't budge :(
     
  7. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Take the fan belt off and try turning it. If that doesn’t help take the distributor off and try turning it. Just a couple of simple tests before you go any further
     
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  8. Louey

    Louey Moderator

    That first bit, if it was bone dry before the refill then...... :(

    Try some of the advice above before completely condeming it. They are not too difficult to rebuild.
     
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  9. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    When the oil light comes on you needed to go to the top mark to have any chance.

    If the engine builder is cheaper than another, the percentage of recycled parts goes up, quality of parts testing goes down, and likelihood of inheriting a part that is about to fail will increase.

    The VW Engine Company is a good bet for an exchange engine.

    Depending on what broke, it can be cheaper to DIY.. it cost me £260 for pistons and cylinders , and £260 to replace a cylinder head last month..
     
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  10. The alternator turns but I can't get the crankcase pulley to move at all (neither could the AA man, hence the tow to the garage)

    He will be 50 next year, I think its likely time to get him a new block - plus I can't work without him, its a catch 22
     
  11. You shouldn’t turn the engine without a distributor fitted
     
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  12. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    I think it took 3 days over a weekend for an engine from the VW Engine Company to turn up a couple of years back.
    I ordered it from JK as a Preservation Parts engine but it came from the VW Engine Company.

    Pay loadsamoney. Put old engine into crate when new one arrives, call to arrange their courier. Await core refund from supplier based on destruction
     
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  13. Marty SmartyCat

    Marty SmartyCat Supporter

    My engine was rebuilt by them - but it was arranged by the people that I bought the van from.

    I can't say that my experience of them is overly positive - sorry.
     
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  14. theBusmonkey

    theBusmonkey Sponsor

    You've said that before but I seem to remember there were other factors that may not have been the fault of the engine builder? Firstly, and primarily and ultimately lol, it wasn't your commission?

    Like for example exactly what was required and what was to be replaced or renewed.

    To balance your negativity, we had a very good experience...but then again I was in control of what did or didn't get done. And in that respect was prepared to sanction any compromise required.

    Our 2.1 case was knackered. I had the option of no rebuild or the compromise of having a 1.9 case clearanced. Guess what happened;).

    I think if you deal direct with whoever, you have a better understanding of what may or may not have been discussed and therefore are more responsible for the Marmitee that happens... :thumbsup:

    Bottom line. Caveat emptor
     
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  15. Marty SmartyCat

    Marty SmartyCat Supporter

    Looks like we'll have to agree to disagree (again) on Elite Engines.
     
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  16. theBusmonkey

    theBusmonkey Sponsor

    Haha. 1st world problems really x
     
  17. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Elite are THE CHEAPEST. When the engine blowing is the last straw and you decide to sell your bus, you get an Elite engine at minimum cost and your advert can say "New rebuilt engine with 10,000 mile warranty" which reads much better than "needs new engine".
     
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  18. mikedjames

    mikedjames Supporter

    If you are playing a parts lottery, there will be some engines that survive even though they were thrown together, and others that fail from the same source.

    If somebody says they check parts for cracks for instance, that probably beats somebody who just assembles off a pile of spares that looked OK.

    Sometimes if like here, the lack of oil is the problem, then going with a smaller rebuilder who basically rebuilds your own engine may give you a longer lasting result than going for an exchange engine, if all the other parts are good.

    However if you want instant replacement, then an exchange engine is far quicker than joining a long queue for quality personalised work.
     
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  19. Poptop2

    Poptop2 Administrator

    Take the fan belt off and try
    I just meant to see if it moved slightly I should have been more specific, but my task is done here the right people are responding :thumbsup:
     
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