Brake shoes, drums, levers and spreaders, adjustment and issues with new parts

maybe, will have a measure

 

Thanks, if you could look this week, that would be great.

 

All done afaik

Although I haven't done a test drive, the brakes and handbrake are now all working.

I added a bit more weld to the spacer bar slots reducing the slot down to just over 11mm and that has allowed the handbrake to operate.

I think I will need to get new drums at some point as mine are over the wear limit by a small amount, which does not help.

@77 Westy you recommend a set of drums in another post some time ago and the link may have changed...did you mean these?

https://www.customandcommercial.com...rear_brake_drum_39275/?source=Google+Shopping

 

Sorry Chris I don’t remember but I use C&C quite a lot and have never been disappointed with the quality. Their drums are likely to be at least as good as any others and ‘These are heavy duty Brazilian spec are thicker across the bolt face area’ sounds good to me. The black Friday deal is better than our usual discount so the price is pretty good too.

 

So, I decided to get new drums, black Friday and all that. My old drums were just out of tolerance by 0.5mm so I did hum and err a bit, but ended up buying some new ones.

C&C delivered very promptly and I've fitted the drums (more below).

Everything has been readjusted for the umpteenth time, (quick fit ain't I), and all is working well I think.

Now back to those drums. C&C are advertising the drums that fit our late bays, in the text it says clearly that are Brazilian, but showing the picture of the standard type...see the two types on the VWH site shown below.

Note easily seen difference is bolt hole to hold drum to hub, Brazilian only has one.


VWH advert below


I've contacted them about this and they have apologied. Hopefully they will change the very misleading advert.

The drums seem fine tbh, but with the thicker face, the wheel nuts don't screw in as far as they used to. I think it is OK but one thread on the nut is still just showing.

What do peeps think...OK or should I contact them again?

 

I wouldn’t be happy with just one thread showing
I think engineering standard is three threads.

 

Pictures and words

Here are the wheel nuts, not completely tight as wheel off the ground, but most of the way there.

 

Do you have a pic of them fully tight?
There’s no way I’d run it like that.

 

There you go.

 

Those nuts are plenty far enough on

 

Both adds are wrong. The part numbers Hertige state are early wide five drums but the pics are for a late. C&C have the correct part number but the wrong pic.

There ‘should’ be at least one thread on the stud showing but the wheel won’t fall off as you have it.

 

I've sent C&C an email and I'll wait to see what they say!

 

https://www.boltscience.com/pages/s...hat the full,two thread pitches must protrude.

 

Thanks Para. I've sent an email asking them to confirm it is safe...let's ee what they say.

 

Apart from the probability that the Brazilian ones are re- engineered to be just as robust and cheaper to make, they probably found it cheaper to spec studs that are 5mm longer than drill one extra hole and fit an extra bolt...
Said message then never made it back to our UK vendors..

As the nuts are tapered the threads are longer inside the nut than a standard flat nut that people speak of , almost like two on top of each other. So although it looks distressing, the three turns of the thread doing all the work are down in the taper of the nut. The protruding bit is doing very little.

Using closed top chromed nuts helps. Cant see it so it isnt a problem

 

What nonsense is this? lol

 

I would think if they are torqued up to the correct level Chris ...should be OK .Check them after a couple of runs if the wrench clicks fine.
Not a bad idea to check wheel nuts often .

 

To give C&C their due, they answered my email very quickly. Their answer is ' if torqued on correctly, they are fine'

Let's see. I will run the camper for a bit with the hubs off, to be able to check nuts easily.

Now onto the next stage....now where's my list

 

I’m surprised they never said we’ve not had any complaints before
Did you send them the picture?

Id still say it’s not fine
It’s not using all the thread of the nut
One thread showing outside and I’d say it’s ok but you don’t even have that.

 

this
I would only use it as a get me home type thing I wouldn’t trust it long term