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Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by Phil-12, May 20, 2013.

  1. Just finished a service on my 1700 t2 and I found some red stuff in the oil. What is it ? Is it bad ? image.jpg
     
  2. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    is it hard or soft?
     
  3. Some sort of instant gasket?
     
  4. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    that's what i was thinking hence my hard or soft question - could be cork or gasket - feel the oil is it smooth? any swarf in there?
     
  5. That's the motorcycle equivalent of Blue Hermatite, otherwise known as bodger's seal.
    I'd guess your sump plate was sealed up using plenty too much then the excess wiped off the outside.
     
  6. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    It's completely unsuitable silicon sealant that the engine builder used to join the case halves. If there isn't some blocking an oilway somewhere and waiting to deposit it's doom on your summer holiday I'll eat my hat. :(
     
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  7. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    we was trying to break it to him gently and BOOM! zed comes in with his words of truth.
     
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  8. It's soft. There was no signs of anything else in the oil
     
  9. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    how long's it been since you dropped the oil last? as zed says it could be inside somewhere which isn't good but you may be lucky.
     
  10. Fill it up with cheap oil run it until hot and drop it all out again.
    Inspect oil and continue doing this until no more comes out.
     
  11. Break it to him gently Zed! ;)
     
  12. rickyrooo1

    rickyrooo1 Hanging round like a bad smell

    you don't need new oil every time you could filter the bits out.
     
  13. Indeed but use fresh oil for the 1st one. That sh1t breaks down into tiny pieces and clogs up in all kinds of places, ask any Honda owner.
     
  14. Cheers. Will I need to change the filter each time ?
     
  15. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Maybe the gauze filter did it's job. :)
    Hope so. It's one of the reasons silicon is totally unsuitable. The other is that the case halves are joined together dry before boring for the bearings. Silicon doesn't squish out enough on reassembly potentially leaving the shells ever so slightly loose in the case, though as we can see it does squish out quite a bit leaving the worms of destruction floating around your engine.
    Sorry to be blunt, but if you had to rebuild it, better now than after it's let go of a big end and scrapped the crank. :(
     
  16. All the crap was in the filter so fingers crossed
     
  17. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I assume you mean on the outside of the gauze filter?
     
  18. It was all on the plate under the gauze
     
  19. yeah, don"t "hold anyone's hand" now zed !you could have at least done the "ive got good news and I got......"
     
  20. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Sorry I've thought harder and yes the crud would get caught inside the filter and settle on the plate.
     

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