Red9 design coilover kits

Discussion in 'Mech Tech' started by jimmy1975t2, Aug 12, 2013.

  1. Who on his is currently running these on there bay? I'm looking at some for mine as I've heard te adjusters make the ride harsh. Ideally I would like the complete wishbone set up but as we are restoring a bus and saving for wedding fu da can't stretch that far.

    My front beam is solid and I'm looking at the 4-5.5" drop versions as on the site.

    Does anyone run these on there bus and what is the ride like? Do you just replace the torsion bars and shocks?Also any photos please?

    Many thanks
     
  2. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    No personal experience of these, but I've said it before and I'll say it again - be under no illusions, if you cut out 4.5" of suspension travel, you will have to make the ride harsher whichever way you go about it.
     
  3. I've got this setup on my van an I have to say they are great. Easy to fit, all you need to do us replace the toision springs with the metal poles and then the shocks with the coil overs. The ride can be a bit harsh over pot holed roads etc but as @zed said when taken that much travel out its going to be compromised.

    Ill try an upload a photo when I'm on my laptop but I'm currently got it set up with a 4inch drop.
     
  4. Im using the Red 9 System up front. It is very adjustable. A couple of things to watch out for though. As said it can be a tad harsh but not so much as our previously cut'n'turned beam. If you raise it too high on the springs (fine adjustment) the wheels touch the upper wishbone on full lock. Other than that its the bees knees. Just came back from a trip to the Black Isle and was much more comfortable on the MWay than we were ever with the old beam / steering box.
     
  5. This system relies on the integrity of your shock tower , which although never designed to take the weight is possibly ok as long as its not rusty . This system is not for me ....
     
  6. Stuart c - do you run the complete wishbone beam?
     
  7. Yeah im using the full wishbone beam. Expensive but i think its worth it. Bolts in to the same mounts as a std beam.
     
  8. on the coil over kit isn`t a 4.5 inch drop seriously bad for the ball joints
     
  9. I'm with IHU on this one. I'm not really a fan of any of the lowering techniques, but the Red 9 design set-ups concern me the most. Whilst they're a very nice bit of kit and well made it concerns me that so much relies on the ball joints being able to work outside of their design limits. On the full setup I believe the joints are actually upside down?

    I also love the disclaimer from all of the companies making lowering parts and their claims of 'tried and tested'
    :)
     
  10. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    What I don't like is the way these systems are sold as a DIY bolt-on fashion accessory. I'm not suggesting you can't DIY if you have common sense, but as above, there's more to it than simply bolting bits on.
     
  11. Its true they are upside down ,but they are special ball joints designed for that , for me its the fact that although there are two per side all the weight is on one . sure they are well made and sell a lot but it will only take one to fail and hurt somebody then with the forums they will be screwed. I have seen two of the coil over kits fail both ending with the front wheels pointing in different directions .
     
  12. I see the attraction of the red9 coil overs, but I don't like the thought of the whole suspension being held on by the shock mounting bolts alone.

    Their wishbone job does look attractive, tho'
     
  13. It must be just me that doesn't have a spare 2.5 k ?
     
  14. It's not just you ;)
     
  15. Definitely not just you. Seams it's abit of a split on the kits then. I was looking into beam adjusters but wasn't sure about them as seen a few where they have failed. Stock isn't an option though for me haha
     

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