not sure but the ones I've seen are pretty cumbersome....why not modify the pedals so you can fit a long shackle lock or U lock?....couple of tabs welded just below the pedal tops would do the job
would you really want to find a suitable storage space in your bus for a 5KG dustbin lid? look at the design principles and work from there....remember, you want it to be easy for you and difficult for a thief
To stop my bay being nicked I've removed the engine! (well that was to change the tank actually) To stop my little Fiat being nicked again as it was a few months back and dumped at the end of the road with a knackered door, lock/handle and steering lock, I now park it in the garden at night, turn the steering wheel one full rotation, remove it and take it in the house!
I've not got one (yet) but bookmarked the page last time someone mentioned it: http://www.ubercoolproducts.talktalk.net/uber_cool_products_2012_003.htm
There's a bloke on here (or possibly on Earlybay) who makes pedal clamps for Bays and they really do work. Very simply three bits of steel, welded and painted with a hole for a padlock. I can't remember the name but I'll have a look at mine later and tell you then.
It's amazing how low insurance premiums are for vans - less than £200 for over £20k agreed value with no security measures and kept on the drive. OK, so we live in the sticks, but even so, if the theft menace was as bad as we are led to believe, insurers would be charging a lot higher premiums for our very easy to steal old vehicles.
uber cool over on earlybay does them. here's the link http://forum.earlybay.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=36123
I conclude that you and I have different perspectives on what organised car crime looks like. My version, having worked with the Met's Serious Car Crime Squad, Thatcham and having owned my own car security company (sorry, am not trying to name drop or big myself up - but do feel compelled to back my thoughts up with some proof of pedigree) is a warehouses full of high end Audi's, Ferrari's and Range Rover that were genuinely stolen to order en-masse. To give you an idea, in 2003 I visited the compound in Chalk Farm where on the ground floor alone (one of six floors, Chalk Farm being 1 of 3 compounds the Met uses) had 6 Ferrari's, 12 Audi TT's various Jags, Range Rover's and Porsche's amounting to around £1million (for those of you that like Bikes, the Bike floor had Duke 996's, Laverda's and MV Augusta as a starters). They had a 90's Porsche 911 there that was used as a training car - it was so well rung that the experts simply could not trace where it was from. These car's were all rung before the gang's were caught - they were stolen either by car key burglary or aggressive muggings - then driven across London by teenager's or women (who when caught copped a TWOC and that was all) - then either cut up or shipped abroad. That to me is 'stolen to order' by 'organised car thieves'. The rumour mongering that is happening in the VW scene about the same gangs is embarrassing by comparison - and it get's very tiring hearing people say 'don't bother with security because if they want it they will take it' which is utter tripe. At this point I suspect you and I are furiously agreeing - most vans 'taken without a trace' are insurance jobs plain and simple - sorry if that offends people but if time served thieves have to resort to burglary or mugging to nick a car then the 'willow the whisp' thieves the VW scene have are in the wrong line of work plainly. Security is simple - put a tracker on it, lock the thing including the bootlid, talk with your neighbours about keeping an eye on it, smartwater the vehicle and sticker it saying so, etch the windows and take a lot of pictures of it - if you want physical security do it and put your keys somewhere safe.
If someone manages to drive mine away, i would try to catch them and then use the worst type of torture i could think of, to find out how Cos im buggered if i can get it to start, ive lost the spark somewhere!, job for tomorrow now
Does it seem like proportionally speaking a lot get nicked because for an opportunist thief they are easy pickings and there are still alot about ,rather than a modern car which have become very difficult to steal without the keys, for scrap ,parts,the shear hell of it. I have become rather paranoid about this and whenever we take her out my heart does a little flutter every time we get back to the car park and I spot her silly big roof. We recently had my husband's car stolen off our drive after his keys were nicked , seems it was driven about then set on fire at a local beauty spot. Does not say a lot about professional car thieves round here.
I bought a wheel clamp for mine but it is so cumbersome and so time consuming to fit that most times I didn't bother. When we're only nipping in the pub for a beer and a meal on a day out then we tended not to bother as its only going to be an hour or two. Well security devices are useless if they're not used so I stuck the wheel clamp in the corner of the garage and got myself a pedal lock. It's nothing like the links from prototype bay, it's a top of the range motorbike chain and padlock. When I'm driving it is wrapped twice around the steering column and as soon as we park and leave the van, even for a few minutes the chain is looped between the steering column and the clutch pedal and padlocked. Easy, quick, very visible and simple enough to be used every time. That takes care of an opportunistic thief and I do have additional security measures which I will not discuss on an open forum but basically you need to make it too much trouble to nick. Oh! And make sure you've got a proper agreed value. And if you REALLY want to screw with the thieves minds the peel the gear selector sticker off of the ashtray, that'll stop them driving it away.
So, are folk suggesting that bays aren't really nicked, they're just insurance scams? Its a bugger, Mine is worth far more as an insurance write off than it's ever going to be worth in real life.
im sure... you could drill a hole in the clutch peddle by the floor and put a padlock through it ....
