This. I’ve had numerous bits off folk on here over the years who wanted nothing in exchange. Likewise I’ve tried to return the favour when I can. Of course things have changed since the earlier days of the whole dub scene. As long as people are bothering to keep these old rust buckets on the road, whether they do all the work themselves on a shoestring budget, or are fortunate enough to have the spare cash to pay someone else, I’d say it’s better than just letting them rust away to nothing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Have to factor in the lack of availability of garages that are able and willing to work on them nowadays as well. The days of an old chap working out of a lock-up are long gone. I'd also suggest that the MOT exemption has taken away the annual check that most people rely on. Not everyone can or wants to crawl under a van every weekend, or paint gearboxes....!
Years ago are used to stop all the time to fix harley motorcycles. Stuck on the side of the road. But after they put so much electronic sensors. On those bikes. I just smile and passed them by. Unless it’s an older one. I mean who needs seven sensors And a electric fuel pump on a harley motorcycle. And if one goes. The whole thing shuts down. And most of these new guys have all this Tow coverage anyway . And travel In Unecisery Can’t get anywhere 10 guys on a trip. Takes about two hours to get 100 miles down the road.
Parts wise I think a lot of it is that they just running out and theirs lots more vans demanding them. For me the whole friendly chilled out VW vibe has died along time ago you only have to look at the shows now. This is what’s so good about the forum it’s still hanging on.
That's a good point, do a few shows and watch the reg plates and other clues and you realize how many Ozzy, ZA and US imports are about in the UK.
Yep I was chatting with an old boy who had a Triumph TR4 , I said I had a Volkswagen and he replied ohh you lot will have us all off the road with them un roadworthy things. I asked him if he had an MOT he no because I maintain it myself I think basically he felt we generally don’t maintain them properly I’m going now to purposely drive up to the Red shoot pub on The Morgan fanciers day And see if I can upset a few of them by waving my MOT certificate
Whilst the MOT requirement may not be there, the availability of one is. If owners are naive enough to think they don’t need one ( even those knowledgable and competent to do their own maintenance) then more the fool them. It’s only a matter of time before a forum thread opens. “ My Insurers won’t pay out because I don’t have an MOT “……It will be so easy for insurers to find a fault to hide behind.
Yep, it's not an excuse, more of an explanation. Although why would an insurer not pay out if a vehicle is exempt?
Indeed! The only reason I can see for Classic cars being given an exemption is so as many will fall into disrepair, I think some people think that the government are being charitable because they like to keep the Morris 1000s on the road, I think we are all set for a big shakeup one day So enjoy them while you can
MOT is not connected to roadworthiness in the eyes of the insurers. It's either roadworthy or it isn't.
Regardless of that The plan is to get the old cars off the road , It all depends on the owner’s I bet I’m right in saying Some would think that if it goes and stops It’s ok and won’t care if it is structurally sound or not Never check anything out never grease anything no servicing, And quite happy to smoke it up the motorway Without a care in the world , not only that there’s The parasites who will sell rotten vans knowing that they are free from any safety checks whatsoever Just give me the money money money
I’m probably just fed up of the greed in the dub community at the moment. Here’s a recent story that sparked it off . It was a chap that bought my T4, it was well underpriced and I openly declared everything that was wrong with it to my knowledge, he got it home ( he wasn’t a seasoned dubber) and three months later phoned me to complain about an oil leak and some patches of rust I hadn’t noticed saying the mot man should have picked it up and I wasn’t honest, I’d given him £300 off the cheap price to address any eventualities, but now three months later he wanted £500 towards the repairs, obviously I told him to do one and go look at the proper price for a low mileage factory caravelle. He took umbrage and reported the mot man, the mot man was watched by his boss and then found to have had a drink one day and was sacked. This greedy vindictive individual had gone out of his way to accuse me of fiddling him, the mot man of supplying a dodgy mot. He then sold the van for double what he paid for it and went around bragging about it to mates of mine. What he didn’t know was the guy he got the sack because he couldn’t get at me is an old dubber that I have known for 45 years who has done more to help local dubbers than anyone I know, if that guy would have gone direct to him with his concerns the mot man would more than likely sorted it for him for no more than a drink. I learned about his sacking this weekend and feel awful for him.
I can absolutely assure you that it is.After a road traffic accident virtually all cases which involve police attendance they will require production of licence, mot and insurance. A police accident report will be available to the insurers. They will invariably request this. If any of those documents is missing, or in the case of exemption, not “ required” then they WILL investigate further. This investigation may involve obtaining their own independent experts report on the vehicle. I know as I acted as an insurance lawyer for many years. Yes, point taken an MOT raises the case that, at the time of the MOT the vehicle was roadworthy ( not a definitive but evidential). The relevant question is roadworthiness, also of significant relevance is “ did the vehicle owner act responsibly in not seeking an MOT. Many members of this forum are extremely experienced at maintenance of their vehicles however I can pretty much assure you that a court/judge would not accept their evidence as being expert evidence. If it came to an argument between a qualified mechanical motor engineer and Fred the experienced but unqualified bus owner I can only see (and have seen many times) one outcome. For the sake of the cost of an MOT it is a no brainer as to whether to get one….by all means if it fails do the work yourself and then get a re-test. £40 for relative peace of mind.
I'm an MOT fan myself, it's such good value and really only they can check the brakes properly - your bus might stop straight in the dry but as you can't lock the rears if the compensator is working properly you can't really test them adequately yourself. That and the suspension shaking machine alone are worth more than £40 to me. Bargain! I've let mine lapse because I know it would fail on split CV boot, but then again... I don't drive it.
