Yep, there’s a new noise in my noisy cupboard and far be it from me to tell him he’s not welcome,,,,,,but he’s not welcome Sounds a bit like the rattling of the bumpers on an early with out leaf guards. (That sounded a bit Benny Hill then dint it.)Tried it with belt off and yup it’s either fan or alternator starting to make unwelcome advances into my noisy cupboard . So here we go again with wrestling against crap parts and Chineseum in all it’s glory. Now most peeps from all my reading and sources seem to get it all off then take the four studs out of the way from the alternator stand and replace with bolts. Am I missing a vital trick here as I still have the four studs. Would it not be practical to cut a nut in half and lock the half’s together in order to just remove the studs ? Or two nuts if there’s enough room or get surgical and wang the pants off em with some moley grips? Or is there a reason for wrestling everything apart like young uns on a first date Ozziedog,,,,,,,,,, Wot am I missing
Oh, I’m gonna go cheapso first off and source some bearings I reckon. Anyone done that ? Ozziedog,,,,,,,,I won’t be the first
Take it to bits first. The ones I've dealt with, the bearing at the pully end has wallowed out the ali it was pressed into Good luck double nutting the stand in situ, one or two of them are rather inaccessible. Probably be quicker to bite the bullet and take the engine out.
You can undo the fan housing, remove the carburettor/manifold, remove the thermostat and lift the fan housing,(poke a big screwdriver underneath the fan housing to hold it up). Undo the four nuts on the alternator backing plate. You can get just enough clearance to jump the alternator stand over the studs with the engine in. Then its easy to pull the studs and replace with bolts for next time. I have done it twice as I dont like unnecessarily undoing studs as that chews up the soft engine block metal..
Ok, so worth spending five minutes on but not to invest a half hour or more. Ozziedog,,,,,,,,,,might be Chinesium then ,,,, bugger
That was my thought initially too but as ^^^ I’ve said up there , I’ll throw five or ten minutes at it and see what we get. I’ll obviously leave the front ones / easier ones to last. Ozziedog,,,,,,,, I did mean last,, didn’t mean Lasty,,, although he’s very welcome to help
I thought that if I popped the thread above the nut in a couple of places then undoing the nut might / could / would / will unwind the stud. The alternator itself may indeed be donkeys years old but this motor is a 1641 powerhouse from Mekico that is only five ish years old, could be a few more I guess. Ozziedog,,,,, or I could live to regret even thinking about it
Not enough room round the back stud on the left for anything much without taking the manifold out .. You still have to remove the manifold to get the fan to come out. Unless you manage to undo the fan nut in situ. Messing up the thread with centre punches then not being unable to actually pull the stud would be a silly thing maybe.. Go round the studs, dont get fixated on removing them as a magic bullet, there is still a lot of other stuff needed to succeed..
Top marks Mike, this however maybe the one and only time that twin carbs are a bonus in the removals department. I’ve done two now but they are the front two, then I was spirited away by Mrs Ozziedog to the Toby Carvery to see how many roasties i could scoff. Instead of manifold in the middle, I do have linkages to manoeuvre around. I didn’t just double nut them, I took the nuts off first then doubled up on the nuts which worked well on one. The popping the thread on the other didn’t works so good though so I had to get primitive with the moley gripsters and convince them. Hopefully, by the time I get the rear nuts off to get the washers out, it may have created a little less tension in the area. Who knows. I needed to get up offa them knees for a bit even on a cushion on a chunk of carpet takes it’s toll on them old roofer knees. I did remember to take a lead off from the battery to save myself from frying every little thing. It’ll be a good job done for sure. Ozziedog,,,,,,,,,,when’s Pete Tong arriving?
I really do like that Mike. We have a bit of juxtapositioning here though. Sounds perfect apart from ’ kids ‘ folding camping chair with my rather large rear end. I might just try the builders hop up (beer crate) with a cushion on. Gotta be better than the knees. Got three out and numero quattro is obviously the rear left one. Cant get on it nicely. The socket will fit ok but you have to use an extension like a wobble bar. Got the nut off, got the washer off popped the nut back and another and tightened but failed at the last hurdle and it didn’t work. So over to plan three hundred and eleven and that involved filing the nuts a bit to try and get more purchase on the exposed thread. Got the first one on with blue loctite and right down on the stud,the second one wouldn’t go on nicely, probably because of rubbish filing so the loctite started drying on the stud thread and I couldn’t get the nut started nice enough. Ended up forcing the nut on and loctite on and leaving it for a few (48) ish hours then try a spanner tomorrow morning. If that don’t work, three twelve involves a junior hacksaw and three thirteen involves my mate and his old tractor, that’ll do it deaf nut. Ozziedog,,,,,,,,,, Then let’s ave a look at this noisy alternator or fan
Goodness knows how I managed but I have actually managed once to take the fan off and put it back on with the alternator in place, then pull the alternator to get the fan out of the hole - it also makes it a million times easier to just lift the alternator up and just undo the nuts on the studs to get it off. I think it was all about whacking the ratchet handle with a hammer, with the 36mm socket on the fan nut at the front, inertia did the rest. I had to do it because I needed another shim under the fan hub as it was a brand new fan, and I couldnt be bothered to go through the whole lifting the fan housing bit any more. Took an afternoon .
If only you had an prototype bay, where you just take the rubber engine mounts off of the moustache bar, and then let the bar sit on the chassis mounts, giving you an extra couple of inches to lift the fan shroud / alternator
Three eleven worked a treat. Had to strip the centred carb linkages down. So the alternator is out and I’ve stripped it down. The bearings, one came off reasonably well the other required a puller. I used the hot air gun to warm them up. When I initially turned the bearings by hand , I thought they both felt a tad rough, but when I pulled them off, they both felt fine and looked fine ??? So I pulled them apart thinking I’d find a bad ball or a scag on a track but nothing not even after cleaning up and rolling them around. So I’ve ordered some new bearings and went for the SKF ZZ ones. Let’s see what happens when I put the new ones on. Ozziedog,,,,,,,,, delivered on next week
Three thirteen involved my mates tractor but this wasn’t needed. His tractor isn’t a Massey Ferguson or anything like that but it used to be a bit of a stud . Ozziedog,,,,,,,,,, in fact a Stud Ex tractor
