Now Is the summer/autumn/winter of our discontent

Liz Truss says workers should do more graft and in the same breath proposes tax cuts which will help the rich more than the ordinary workers. No hand outs for the poor folks, they can either starve to death or freeze to death. In my view the Tories have hit rock bottom and don't care about the majority of folks who are in effect keeping the country going, while the fat cats are creaming off the profits and leaving little for the workers who keep their companies alive.

In the 1970's we had inflation at 24% and mortgage rates at 15%, Strikes were the norm and they did mostly work, we had power cuts, coal strikes, food shortages and more and i experienced civil unrest and the winter of discontent. This is what is coming.

Governments don't learn, they are there to support the people, not make themselves richer. They have the money but like the fat cats they spend it on themselves.

 

Where did you get this imaginary idea? Is there a constitution that says that? I think you'll find you are wrong, the tories will do as little as possible to help people - just barely enough along with electioneering to get voted in. They stand for business and profits, but not micro business (sub £1M turnover) because that's everyone who's self employed.

 

Anyone who thinks the other side is any better ... Corbin, Abbott, Thornberry, Chakrabati ... all sent their kids schools other than the local comp ...

Mick Lynch leader of the RMT Onion reportedly earns £84,000 (apparently he has learnt £760k in remuneration in the last seven years) ... apparently he is there to support the people

I'm not really sure if anyone is on your side ... socialists, capitalists, probably all in it for themselves.

 

RMT Onion

 

Sure, my main point being you just know exactly what you're going to get with the Tories - cuts in services paid for by your taxes in favour of someone making a profit from the same work, or it just not happening.
I think Blair/Brown was a reasonable balance of capitalism/socialism, at least their policies improved the state of schools and the NHS, very obviously where I lived.
Politicians send their kids to private schools for privacy, the comprehensive my kids went to was excellent.

 

yeah really

 

The Germans showed us long ago that fighting the Class War wasted everybodys time and money.. we set them up with a system where workers are more responsible for their terms and conditions, while the likes of Tony Benn with the help of the USSR were taking our industry to pieces..

Its shared responsibility, not them and us that wins..

 

Are Corbyn, Abbott and Thornberry still relevant?

 

I was looking at the best school for my daughter, the local comp has families trying to get there kids in from out of the local area, so that was enough for me.
If it had been a choice between private and the school I went to (watch Kes for reference) private would have won hands down.

 

I wish you lot would stop bickering

 

I like your idea for barristers to get second jobs driving buses .so handy if they have a bump in the bus.

 

I'm not sure loading these organisations with PFI was any good, sure, they built fancy new hospitals, schools, police stations etc. but loaded them up with debt for the next 25+ years under the PFI scheme.

 

What I don't understand, those that are with a green renewable energy companies, why are their bills going through the roof, nothing to do with oil/gas as it's solar/wind ect. just another con it seems.

 

Yep, I’ve said this and asked my supplier - Bulb (I’m 100% green electricity) and they said it’s just the whole sale price of electricity that has gone up.

So I guess that Bulb are buying green electricity from someone who has also put the price up to match the coal / gas / oil generated price.

It is a con.

 

It would be interesting to add up all the leccy use by people on 100% green tarriffs and add the % of green energy all suppliers are supposed to supply and see the result. I bet it would come out that the amount of green energy technically sold would outstrip the amount being produced. Or there will be a clever clause that means when you buy green energy what it really means is some of the price goes into some green scheme for the future or green tax or something.

 

I imagine it was a political move to tie the Tories hands and prevent them cutting them back or flogging them off to private enterprise. We waste a lot of money with our party system and one party trying to tie a future opposition government down. Thatch had it off to a tee - flog off anything that belonged to us, the nation. All the services, council housing, you name it. Flog it to the well off, feck the balance of society.

 

Apparently part of the problem is it hasn’t been as windy as expected

 

I noticed today for the first-time that EDF call it "100% green nuclear energy" .................

 

I think the term 'green' applies to those who actually believe they are directly buying power from sustainable sources.

Thats impossible.

It's all bought from the same generation market pool and supplied through the same national grid.

 

You've justified the point of PFI, our children are likely to have been born in newer PFI hospitals and educated in new PFI schools.

Yes its expensive, but the PFI operators take on all the risk of design, build, operate, maintain and also replace anything required over the entire contract period. Financial deductions/penalties apply if they dont.