Rubbish laptops

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Zed, Oct 1, 2020.

  1. Norris

    Norris Supporter

    Ray?

    Yes, ventilation will probably be required as they are often passively cooled rather than using a fan. It does keep them nice and quiet though. If you have room for ventilation they would be ideal for a small home "studio" corner.

    HP also do a range of mini PCs, but possibly not configurable like the PCSpecialist ones
     
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  2. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Ray = Razzyh
     
  3. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Various bits just refuse to be crammed into the thin one inc dvd drive so this is a half height one. Any comment? :)

    Case
    COOLERMASTER ELITE 130 CASE

    Processor (CPU)
    Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor i7-10700KF (3.8GHz) 16MB Cache

    Motherboard
    ASUS® ROG STRIX Z490-I GAMING (Mini-ITX, LGA1200, USB 3.2) - ARGB Ready

    Memory (RAM)
    16GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3600MHz (2 x 8GB)

    Graphics Card
    2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GT 1030

    1st Storage Drive
    1TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA SATA-III 3.5" HDD, 6GB/s, 7200RPM, 64MB CACHE

    1st M.2 SSD Drive
    250GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 2300MB/W)

    DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
    24x DUAL LAYER DVD WRITER ±R/±RW/RAM

    Power Supply
    CORSAIR 550W TXm SERIES™ SEMI-MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET

    Power Cable
    1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
    Processor Cooling

    Corsair H60 2018 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler

    Thermal Paste
    STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING

    Sound Card
    ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)

    Wireless/Wired Networking
    GIGABIT LAN PORT + Wi-Fi

    USB/Thunderbolt Options
    MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 4 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS

    Operating System
    Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]

    Operating System Language
    United Kingdom - English Language

    Windows Recovery Media
    Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Supplied on USB Drive

    Office Software
    FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft 365® (Operating System Required)

    Anti-Virus
    BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode

    Browser
    Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)

    Warranty
    3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)

    Delivery
    STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)

    Build Time
    Standard Build - Approximately 7 to 9 working days
    Price: £1232.00 including VAT and Delivery.
     
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  4. We’re running ableton lite on an old 2009 iMac with Yosemite and an Scarlett interface. It’s pretty good so far, but only just learning how to use it.
    Sounds like your bespoke computer will be a lot better.


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  5. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    From reading yesterday I think I'll ditch my Presonus box and replace it with a better one. Mine is very slow USB 2 and a USB C box like a Motu 2 would be 20x faster and better DAC. I'm thinking this has been another part of the problem.

    I have to say I was almost completely happy with the old lappy and Presonus box until it quit on me but an excuse to upgrade can't be overlooked.
     
  6. When I built my last PC, I found that selection of the case was the most difficult part. I also went mini ITX, if that helps? The other thing is not to limit memory and expansion, for what you're planning.
     
  7. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I'm hitting a few problems with this. They (on line build software) let me specify 3600 speed ram, but my research reveals the cpu chip only supports 2933. It makes me wonder about the rest of it TBH, more homework needed.
     
  8. Moons

    Moons Supporter

    GET THE NET PULLED IN!

    There are least 5 tech geeks we can capture here, from just one cunning @zedders lure!


    Let’s send them to Priti Island....
     
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  9. Mine was a bit easier build to be honest, I wanted a music and photo server that was cheap to leave switch on all the time and could let me watch catch up TV. I did the build myself in the end.
     
  10. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    I'm constantly changing what I think I want! That 10th gen i7 10700K chip is overkill I think, it has a rep as a space heater and requires a level of expensive cooling that's silly for me and probably stuffing in a small case on a limted choice of small motherboards would batter it's potential performance anyway. It's one of the best performing chips, about 12th of all current CPUs, the fasted i7 chip.
    Maybe I'd be better with the fastest 10th gen i5 chip which is rated at half the power consumption of the i7 one. :rolleyes:
     
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  11. Dubs

    Dubs Sponsor supporter extraordinaire

    Its worse than trying to spec a high performance flat 4 innit! :lol:
     
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  12. You need to work out if the fundamental differences between i5 and i7 actually buys you anything you really need. Some applications can't use all of the i7's features.
     
  13. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    The presonus one does use all the cores up to 32, could be 48, it was a number I couldn't afford!

    While you were typing I was researching.

    The one in my now defuct laptop i5-7200u is the slowest performing i5 chip on the market, scoring 1757 compared to an i5-10600K at 8203 and that i7-10700K at 11238.

    But it's back to heat. Both those K versions are fast but 125w, they need infrastructure around them, both the cooling, case and board.

    An i5-10500 scores 7330 at 65w and would be 4.2x faster than my old one. The hot i5 and i7 chip would be 4.7 and 6.4x faster respectively. Conclusion K chips too much hassle.

    I fink I'll have another look at £1200 laptops. With this more reasonable attitude I might find one to suit but will they support a usb c device? :)

    Scores from here. https://benchmarks.ul.com/compare/best-cpus?search=
     
  14. What oil were you thinking of using?
     
  15. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    i7-10600 scores well at 65w - 10253 or 5.8x faster than current. :thinking:
     
  16. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    No
    Oil
    Buster
    :)
     
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  17. Norris

    Norris Supporter

    Power is a consideration (you live on a boat, right?) Lots of cores and plenty of RAM is good for your needs, raw processor speed not so much
     
  18. The last time I looked, hyperthread cores weren't all they were cracked up to be, could be that things have improved, since then.
     
  19. Zed

    Zed Gradually getting grumpier

    Everything I read for music production says go for speed and cores, but where there's a choice choose base speed above cores. I don't understand why you think raw speed is not so important when everyone else thinks it is. :)
     
  20. The problem is, unless you have access to the code, you have very few tools at your disposal to figure out actually how well a given application is actually able to use those cores, or his well the memory access is written! And, not all cores are equal, it's creative marketing imho to call an HT core, a core.
     

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