Pulled by the police today

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Patrick Nguyen, Apr 4, 2018.

  1. Fun? I think I'd cry my eyes out using my Bays body work for testing. Feel free to carry on using Major for testing.
     
  2. Well if you see them again tell them that, as I am a short-ar$e, I often reduce the risk of getting a thrombosis by doing some standing-up driving.
     
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  3. I go to road traffic collisions quite a lot, never been to one with a camper yet?

    Seen many people not make it in modern cars. Can’t stand scaremongering officials with nothing better to do than belittle the general public.
     
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  4. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    Major has no brakes & stands on three wheels atm. Gusbus has a fuel leak :(

    I could use my reasonably priced car though :D
     
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  5. Faust

    Faust Supporter

    Either that or he is in some very seedy Magenta pink lit up joint ...kneeling on a stool with a tulip in his mouth ...with a hockey stick quite far up somewhere :rolleyes:
     
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  6. I'll get the Feds round to belittle you in your coffin on wheels or maybe not on Majors case. Do you want you want to buy Dani?
     
  7. The Police were being a little over zealous but you should take it on the chin about your bald tyres, you should have noticed them and not driven your van and the whole episode would not have happened.

    Also the cops were right to point out heavy and loose items in the van which could hit you in the event of a crash. Just maybe those cops had seen that happen before.

    Ok the cops were annoying but maybe they were trying to give you a wake up call which we all need from time to time. Move on now, don't dwell on it.
     
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  8. MorkC68

    MorkC68 Administrator

    :lol: I haven't got room for any more buses, so Ive been told :D
     
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  9. I've not been to a fatal involving an historic car but loads involving modern ones.
    I can't stand scaremongering officials with nothing better to do than pick up the remains of the general public and their loved ones because of slick tyres, drink driving or not wearing seat belts. Many, but not all, members of the public are quite frankly idiots who do not think that anything will happen to them. After all these years of education and public awareness of drink driving, clunk click etc., it's ignored until it goes pear shape.
    Whilst the cop was wrong on the legislation he was right about the state of the tyres. He did have a bit of humour and didn't CS the daughter for answering back.
    I'm now very glad I left the job 5 years ago and people can sort their own mess out.
     
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  10. I wasn’t referring to upholding the law, rather forcing his opinions on vehicles.
     
  11. The cop was wrong, and yet not, but by today standards they are not as safe with no ABS, air bags, small crumple zones, hence why they stopped making them in Brazil. I have a thing about how unsafe motor bikes are and in chatting with youngsters with no leathers and wearing trainers, I over dramatize (or actually not) the dangers using a story of my mate who lost a foot after a prang.
    This will sound arrogant but is not intended to be but sometimes the only way to get through to people is to speak to them like children. The problem is when the cop does it all the time and not taking into account the persons response to normal conversation.
    If people had sense, there would be no need for the police.
     
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  12. Jack Tatty

    Jack Tatty Supporter and teachers pet

    Have to admit, before we sold the bay, when driving the bus with daughter on board, I often used to think, even with decent brakes, plenty of tread on my tyres, inability to drive that fast, this is 40+ year old safety.
     
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  13. The test of sensibility comes into play then! Was it sensible to nick the op for a bald tyre...... frankly it looks pretty poor to me so probably. Is it sensible to talk a load of old tosh about tyre ages... seems he had a point but nothing to do with the law. Is it a good use of police resources to pull someone with a bald tyre..... yes it is! Is it sensible to check the vehicle over .... id say so! Is it sensible to come actoss as a complete arsewipe to a member of the general public going about his legal business but breaking a rule in doing so. Nope, dont think so. Ive met many bloody good coppers and some complete arseholes hated by their colleagues as well as everyone else. The uniform does not a policeman make methinks. As for traffic.... seems to attract them. They do see some carp in the line of duty though, but so do paramedics and firebobbys.....
     
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  14. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

  15. Story time folks. Loosely based on this event but with consequences based on what I've witnessed or spoken with colleaues about. This is not a dig a Patrick in any way shape or form.
    A cop stops a Bay and finds that it's tyres are faulty. He speaks to the driver, who has his child in the front and advises him about these tyres. Whilst the tyres are dangerous and ilegal the cop let' the driver continue on their journey.
    Due to all the rain, snow and ice the roads are in a poor condition. A family in another car hits a pot hole and loses control. The Bay driver sticks it' brakes on and aquaplanes into the front of the other car because of the slick tyres.
    Child in the front of the Bay has to have a leg amputated as it' stuck between the crumpled bulk head and wheel arch.
    The driver of the Bay sues the Police for the accident and injury to the daughter because the cop let him drive off knowing that the tyres were defective.
    The family of the other car also sues the Police for the injuries and damage they sustained. After all, where there's blame, there's a claim.
    The cop is then investigated for two years for gross misconduct and neglect of duty before it goes to court. Court kicks the case out but then the officer has to go before a police misconduct panel who find him guilty on the balance of probabilities (not as beyond reasonable doubt as at court). The cop is sacked and loses his family home even though it' his first ever complaint and has numerous commendations for bravery and good work.
    So to summarise, because the cop didn't prohibit the vehicle as he wanted to be nice in front the child and wanted to be helpful to the Bay driver, the cops life is FUBAR, the child has lost a leg, the drivers get a shed load of money from suing and the driver of the Bay may or may not get 6 points and a fine.
    Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
    Whilst there will always be a difference in interpretation of how the cops speak to the public, today's society with it's culture for suing means that the 'bit of advice is all but gone and the cops are being jobworth and doing it by the book.
    Sorry if I'e bored you with this story but it is based on fact.
     
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  16. I get your gist but does sound like an episode of chips! Think what wre saying is that the odd apocrophal story to illustrate a point along with a hard knock to avoid the issue goes a long way to resolving the situation. I hear you and i suppose ive only heard one side. Btw that tyre is crappy!
     
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  17. Baysearcher

    Baysearcher [secret moderator]

    I agree about the tyre 100%.
    (Based on 1 side of the story though) it sounds like everything else the cop did was condescending / wrong / another example of them overstepping their remit.
     
  18. That turns me right up - guys riding bikes in jeans or shorts and trainers. Even worse, their girlfriends on the back with their skirts up to their bums, legs ready to be shredded by the tarmac if they come off...
     
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  19. I also think that cops have to remember that not all members of public are against them.
    A cop will probably spend and hour getting a statement off a traumatised victim then spend the next 8 hours dealing with the scum that caused the trauma. He will then spend about 2 hours completing the file before approahing the CPS for an hour before they say 'insufficient evidence' The cop will then be accused as being a waster but the victim and no doubt his gaffer who need their detection rates up.
    All I can say is that I'm glad I'm out. I would not recommend the job to anyone as it really is a thankless task where you are lucky to get through to retirement after 37 years.
     
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  20. The cop does sound a prat but where do you stop the advice before it becomes a condisending lecture?
    Very much a fine line.
     

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