No, Ken Livingstone brought in the LEZ in April 2008, Johnston delayed the 2010 phase 3 LEZ tighter limits for a further two years, Khan brought in the ULEZ April in 2019 Before that Khan had introduced the T charge in 2017.
That's the driver for all of this BS in the first place. Optics. If they really thought we were in a man-made climate emergency: 1) There'd be undisputable evidence for it 2) There wouldn't be a charge, you just would not be allowed to drive in the city at all 3) The underground would have cleaner air than the city street (it's many X more polluted, so much so it's a health hazard) 4) We would put more pressure on China 5) They'd seize ANY opportunity to replace our conventional electricity generation with renewables (Disappointing wind-farm news just yesterday anyone?) 6) Have a bit more fire on their backsides to put in the infrastructure and tax breaks for electric vehicles There's lots more. But suffice to say, it's only about money, control, and the transfer of those things to the people that already have most of it anyway.
there is evidence, and lots of evidence that climate change is driven by us. Just because some people choose to ignore the evidence for whatever their reasons are, does not mean the evidence any less solid. What we are willing to do in the face of the evidence is a different matter.
I said undisputable evidence. All evidence put forward so far by an 'expert' has another 'expert' presenting other facts that dispute it.
This ULEZ money grab should’ve been applied to older cars only at a change of ownership, so any subsequent owners are only then liable to pay, the natural churn of cars being uneconomical to repair etc would see most off the road within a few years. I’m gutted, I work in London and slowly conceding defeat (currently getting lifts into work tho) as my golf TDI Mk4 with 370,000 miles is still a really good car, yet anything diesel, decent and (currently compliant…but for how long?) is £10k+ I’m hoping for a work transfer to Bedford that hopefully comes through in the next 3-6 months. But can’t help thinking this money grab will be rolled out across the country in due course. along with another system of road charging which I think these cameras are trojan horse for.
I'm not sure I've ever seen or heard a proper expert who doubts the evidence on our effect on climate change. The other 'experts' brought forward by the media for entertainment/viewer fodder are not worth listening to. So I dispute the undisputed !
In general before listening to "experts" these days you need to find out who pays for them . Or whether they are just repeating a particular report funded by a particular organization. Politics and truth are forever distant relations.
I note that where the ULEZ boundary starts just south of Heathrow Airport on the A30 even if the camera was trashed, there was a police camera van sitting there.
Unsurprisingly "climate change" is highly taxable.. A tax on how green your house is, has been approved in the commons,
The media are loving it ...Pushing coming to shove . Like diesel ..saying got to come off the road . They can be made more cleaner on emissions with more money spent or forced too . Diesels going to be around for a long time yet ...trucks , 7.5 tonners , agricultural vehicles ..must be thousands of different types of those . Plant equipment . They did away with red diesel ...that was a bit of a nip in the arse . Its more to do with filth in the well over crowded City's . To me the biggest threat to the environment is us ...to many of and more to come by the millions in a relatively short space of time . This planet is going to become unsustainable on over population alone never mind about carp fuel and smog .
Saw a beautiful Rover P5 …. all 3.5L of V8, burbling around Bath yesterday… people are starting to cotton on to the use of old “Historic “ vehicles to avoid paying to come into cities.
‘Weather’ it is, or isn’t. I don’t think it matters much, as the human race, and most living things, are just a happy accident, where conditions were right for us to ‘happen’. The world has gone through many changes before, over millions of years. As humans, we go by clocks and calendars, but that’s just a wink of an eye, in the history since the birth of the world. We can’t do anything about it, wether we are helping or not. It’s just a big scam for governments to make money from us. We all run around screaming when thousands of people are killed in earthquakes and floods, but it did all happen before we were on the planet. There is nothing we can do. What happened to that hole in the ozone layer is humans were meant to have made with the gas from old fridge freezers and hairspray cans? There were no greenhouse gasses then, as it all got out of the hole. Now the holes healed up, and the greenhouse gasses are heating the world up, again. If you believe that, then there is no hope for you. It’s all natural cycles. How do you think gorges and valleys were formed? Happened before were were all here… It’s all a load of rubbish. I’m with David Bellamy on this…
You are entitled to your opinion but I fundamental disagree with your conclusion. I don't think a long discussion here will help anybody. So I will bow out of this conversation and stick with the science.
I’m probably in the camp that a future burn up ( or less likely freeze up ) is inevitable. But what we are doing appears to be bringing the inevitability forward. Personally, though this will divide opinion I am more concerned with the undeniable and potentially catastrophic actions we are taking with regard to our seas and rivers worldwide. Effluent and plastic. The problem is the eradication of the basic problems costs our governments whether by putting constraints on companies to reduce plastics, invest in infrastructure etc. These are costly long term and don’t swell the coffers. Whereas short term “ solutions “ eg heat source pumps , Ulez, EV vehicles create jobs , wealth , tax receipts etc. Personally I think that the planet is doomed , but it always was
It’s the sun that’s doing it, with its Solar Flares. The sun is a dying planet that gives off flares, hundreds of miles long. We feel the heat from them. As the sun gets older, the flares get longer. It’s only got to Chuck a bloody good one out and then it’s game over. So in the meantime, enjoy the time you have.
